Thursday, March 27, 2008

12 NOON: ECHO INTERVIEW WITH CLEIN

CLEIN says Bradley and Storey "believe the financial situation of the city is far less important than trying to exact petty revenge.”

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

The problem with all this publicity is that, whilst the Lib Dems seem to love a bloody rumble, they have turned the city around in many ways.

I don't remember Comrade Anderson et al coming up with any viable alternatives to any Lib Dem proposals, simply slagging them off when asked about anything.

Old Labour politics simplly won't cut it in this world and we need a business friendly council.

Liverpool's Labour party 'aint it, they'd prefer to drive away investment with the constant carrion call of "we demand affordable housing!".

Sorry, but if they can't make money out of it, it ain't getting built.

Anonymous said...

Totally bizarre comment. The truth is that the Lib Dems have brought the city to the verge of bankruptcy - how business friendly is that? Some of the city's wards have the worst unemployment in the country - Capital of Culture hasn't touched people's lives there. And what's wrong with building decent homes for people - its not the privilege of the city centre apartment dwellers, you know.
The Lib Dems are standing in the way of progress for Liverpool - Labour will bring real change for the better.

Tori Blare said...

Trying to dodge the issue by pointing out what can only be described as utter rubbish gibberish, is obviously Warren's new tactics on this blog as well as in chambers!

When did AIN'T become a proper word?

The Lib Dems have indeed turned the City round in many ways, when Labour ruled we had money!
Liberal Democrats have made sure we owe £millions.
I pity the fool who uses "old labour" threats to scare others.
The facts are clear and Bradley has not proved otherwise.
Liberal Democrats are corrupt, prove me wrong?

Anonymous said...

What a depressing prospect either the Glib Dums who have done this to us locally or the even dumber and corrupter New Labour who have done this to us nationally - I never thought that id ever say this but Dave C's lot gets my vote this time

Academic Polemic said...

Just a couple of points on recent comments and postings, if I may?

To the anonymous apologist Mr Aint Bradley, Comrade Anderson hasn't slagged them off enough for my liking. As for him coming up with alternative proposals how about a proposal of getting through a day without lying or making the city a laughing stock.

I have no particular confidence in Anderson but I certainly hope he ousts what has become such a stomach churning circus of lies, spin and incompetence. But he wont really win in May, it is that they will lose. I would actually prefer some independent government inspectors to come in and take control of the city and I think Anderson should consider asking for central government to intervene if he intends seriously tackling what has gone on to force the truth out of them all and publish all the secret reports and deals.Listen for the sound of shredding as we get closer to May.

As for Clein, good on you mate, took your bleedin' time though, a bit like Clare Short over Iraq.

Clein is is usually mention here with his wife or "Bonkers wife" Well bonkers has been one of the few outspoken Lib dems over the evil cabal,LDL,the appaling way the cabinet has excluded rank and file, the pay-off and pension deal to Henshaw and many other things that the rest of her sorry and cowardly party has been silent on. So bonkers or not, she has shown integrity and courage and should be applauded for that. If a few more had followed her example the Glib-Dums would not be implodong before our eyes.

Start a Bonkers Party Jan, after all, in the interest of democracy, there should be some credible opposition to Labour and there is no credibility left with your current mob. What an embarassment they must be to the national party and yet astonishingly they gave Storey an award at the conference.

Lifetime Twat Award I think it was.

Now a word or ten on Cover-up.

I know I may be entering into fantasy here but I also hope their outgoing will allow Hilton to live up to some of his early promises. Yes he has perhaps rightly been labelled as Cover-up but look at the circumstances. To really deal with any part of this it would most likely brink down the whole pack of cards as it is so deeply rooted and inter-connected.

In essence, to challenge and remedy some of the disasterous lib dem decisions or to take on LDL and Enterprise, he would have had to come into direct challenge and confrontation with the political leadership. That would create another round of accusations against him about who runs the council councillors or officers and back to the Henshaw Storey war.

He did a good job as ED for education was well liked a respected and seemed like a decent man. When he arrived, he began to make changes and there was a distinct change on atmosphere but very quickly he became wrapped up in the whole spin and lib dem web of lies and of course. he has old Cabal members all around him.

I can't or don't want to regard him as having become a fully paid up memeber of the new wave Cabal, even after the many things he has let go or allowed and possibly ordered a whitewash on but I am prepared to think that given the lunacy and incompetence of the political leadership, he may have had to play the long game, knowing that they will eventually go. Yes I am probably deluded.

He has the opportunity in May to redeem himself. If he doesn;t take it, he should go with them.

As pointed out in these blogs, he has stuck the knife into Bradley when he had the the opportunity and where it would not be seen as an overt political challenge.

Maybe I am suffering from Blair 1997 syndrome where people hoped for so much and soon felt so very let down but it was like the end of years of Thatcherism when Henshaw finally went and Hilton was the local boy made good, rational, intelligent,(taller) known at the time not to be a great admirer of the LDL crusade and the blue sky thinking catchphrase based evangelist idiots of LDL and Team Liverpool that Henshaw and MacIllhinney had let loose like the Spanish Inquisition. (nobody exoected that)

Was Hilton sucked in or has he been biding his time? It is difficult to say although I expect most readers of this blog site will say he had his chance and sold out and for a big fat salary at that. Yep, maybe. I am not optimistic. Blair ended my faith in leaders.

Oh that's enough. They'll do what the hell they want and it's very small fry considering the national levels of lies and corruption we now have across the political spectrum. At least the lib dem lies have not meant the slaughter of hundreds of thousands in unlawful wars and if the politicians can get away with that, what is a few dodgy deals and a financial cock-up in one small city?

Professor Y Chucklebutty said...

By Jove Missus Cromwell sent me this. No doubt familiar to many but so often appropriate.


“In the Name of God, Go”
April 20, 1653
It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonoured by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice; ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government; ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money; is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? is there one vice you do not possess? ye have no more religion than my horse; gold is your God; which of you have not barter’d your conscience for bribes? is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth? ye sordid prostitutes have you not defil’d this sacred place, and turn’d the Lord’s temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation; you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress’d, are yourselves become the greatest grievance. Your country therefore calls upon me to cleanse this Augean stable, by putting a final period to your iniquitous proceedings in this House; and which by God’s help, and the strength he has given me, I am now come to do; I command ye therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of this place; go, get you out! Make haste! Ye venal slaves be gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. In the name of God, go!

Tatty Bye Everybody Tatty Bye

By the way, that's me saying tatty bye, it wasn't in the original.

The Tonys said...

We rather think we could do with a few more polemics from academic - seemed perfectly rational, clear and sensible to us. And Prof Chucklebutty's contributions just become increasingly more relevant to the daily madness that emanates from the Lib Dims.

Tori Blare said...

To the Tony's so your not dead then?

The most relevant quote I am pinching from you chuckley prof,

by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation; you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress’d, are yourselves become the greatest grievance.

HOW TRUE THESES WORDS ARE TOWARDS THE CORRUPT LIB DEMS

nil desperandum said...

Before we drown in mush over Paul Clein's 'resignation', let's be clear what he's 'resigned' from, and when.

He's 'resigned' as Exec Director for Education, but only after Council met last Wednesday for the final time before the May elections, and therefore after the last meeting of the Executive Board. The next time Council & EB meet, we should have a new regime.

Second, he hasn't resigned from the LibDims; he hasn't resigned the LibDim whip; and he hasn't resigned as LibDim candidate in Greenbank ward. So he hasn't resigned from very much at all.

OK, his 'resignation' has kicked off some more welcome bad PR for the LibDims. But Clein has always loathed Storey so there's nothing fresh there.

Less of the 'Principled Paul' nonsense. He's put nothing significant on the line.

nil desperandum said...

Minor correction: Doris Bonkers is the LibDim candidate in Greenbank ward this year, not hubby Paul.

How the council use Ripa to spy on you....

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